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 Post subject: Best Algae Eater with Fronts?
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Will a group of ottos work or should I just get a big regular pleco.

i've got brown algae spots forming on the walls of the tank. I read that it could be caused by low lighting. I only have one 24" flouro on the 125 gallon because I thought the fronts liked subdued lighting?


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I have Bristlenose plecs with my fronts...they do a fantastic job of the algae!

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The common bushynose only gets about 5 inches, a bit small for keeping with adult frontosa.
a 7 inch frontosa will and has choked on bushynose that size.

you want a bushynose at least 7-8 inches.
mosy Ancistrus are dwarf types and less than 5.

there are a couple types though such as leucocistictus, chagresi, hoplogenys.

the best bet A. punctatus (L182, Starlight Bristlenose Pleco) which is IMO the best looking Ancistrus, like a gold nugget except its a bushynose.
they get about 8 inches.

Regular common plecs won't eat algae once they get over 5-6 inches.

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Really- mine pay No attention to mine what-so-ever and they have been with my adults since the plecs were 1.5".

Cant say i ever really given it a thought as i rarely see my plecs (i can see where they sleep ao i know they are there)

Thanx for the info TR6.

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its like alot of risky tankmates.

"they are doing fine so far" .

Its why you can keep Cyprichromis, or guppies for that matter with frontosa.

Frontosa are not active hunters, they are opportunistic and lazy.

So this means they won't hunt if they don't have to.
Keep them fed, most likely they will ignore everything for months.

But one day, a fish will swim too close and get snapped up.
Also, frontosa are not very bright, they will mouth things, so a pleco that just hangs out, may get mouthed.

Its OK if you lose a cyprichromis, you will be out some money but that is it.
If a frontosa decides to mouth a small pleco it will get stuck in its mouth, and you won't be able to get it out.

Anything can be done for a certain period of time, just don't be surprised when something does happen.
Not too easy to cut up a armored pleco that is stuck in a frontosa's throat.

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HEY TR6 I HEARD THAT Starlight Bristlenose Pleco DONT LIKE PH UP AROUND 8.0 I READ THEY REQUIRE A PH NO HIGHER THAN 7.6 IS THAT TRUE AND IF SO WILL THAT EFFECT THEM IN A NEGATIVE WAY?

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if your tank is at pH of 8.0, then Zero pleco's are right for that tank.

most plecos will prefer neutral to acidic.

most of them will be fine at 7.5, though they may not breed.

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i have 2 golden chinese algae eaters. They are large now. i know they eat fish food. they're like vacume cleaners. they're susposed to be mean when they get large, and attach themselves to fish to eat the slime layer. Mine never have. They do move very fast.


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hey jude i have a friend who has two of them and he loves them i think they will be what i get

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Actually I like mine as well. I couldn't understand all the bad comments about them. But then again I've only had 3. One got sucked into the filter system when I was taking the in take screen off for cleaning. So I have 2 now. Mine are around 5 inches long. They are very quick if someone (or fish) comes near them. So I'm thinking that they could get away from a hungy large front. Even though mine are large, I still see them eating algae off of the plants. Mine like to rest inside caves with an eye sticking out.


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A fish for eat not only algae but many other stuffs in the glass and in the decoration that I have used is the Kissing Gouramy.
I had 2 pcs in tank with big angel fishes and other times with big discus.... the angels and discus eating like pigs, and take all, so not food for the kissings.... the only way for them was "kiss" the glass and the decoration... and trust me, they do a great job... everything become total clean... kissing gouramy looks like big lips but in fact the mouth is very small not good to catch good pcs of food.
I never try them with african cichlids... maybe work maybe not.... is matter of test but I have keeped them in Lima where the water is hard enough for aficans, and no problem...

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The problem is when the algae eaters move fast.

Fast movement will freak out a frontosa, thus sending the frontosa running into the glass.

The older a frontosa gets the easier it freaks out.

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I have a full grown bushynose with mine and it seems fine although it isn't doing a particularly good job of the backwall. I'm going to add a common plec for a week or so to try and clear the brown algae off.

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I think if they grow together wouldn´t be problems.... because adult discus and adult angelfishes are truly cowards when they got scared

In fact I will try that with my fronts because I have seen myself the kissing gouramy REALLY clean the glasses and other stuffs

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Kissing gourami eh? Never would have though of that one!

Most LFS have plecos at juvenile sizes, even if I get one that is going to grow big, it might get eaten before it does! Is my only option to order a pleco of a larger size from the aquabid or something? I might be able to have my LFS to order something though...

Last time my local fish store (really reputable one both locally and nationally) recommended me a Tiger Pleco about 3.5 inches long and told me its okay. Well I released it into the colony and didn't see him for a while. Looked around on the internet, worried that he got eaten but I finally saw him last Thursday and decided to re-aquascape the whole tank in an effort to catch him before he really gets eaten (hes fast!). I was afraid of my fronts getting tempted for some reason because the pleco was borderline food size.

I also heard from ppl that larger plecos don't even eat algae from walls anymore and just pose a threat to the other fish because they will want to eat their slime coat. Is that just will the regular ol' pleco or do fancy plecos do that too?


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