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 Post subject: wanted pleco expert!
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What type of pleco is this?
Btw, very cool pleco.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DWGkEsJ-k&feature=fvw

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It is a stunning pleco, but I'm no pleco expert. I'll let the people that know more than me try to answer this.

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looks like a L046 Zebra placo...

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It does not look like a L046 to me.
Probably an L173...


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It does not look like a L173
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after some research....Leporacanthicus sp.


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 Post subject: Re: wanted pleco expert!
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dogger99";p="24860 wrote:
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You keep posting L046 photos.

Look it up here. L173 ---> http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/sp ... ies_id=473

Or L250

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/sp ... es_id=1634

I still think it is Hypancistrus.


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Looks like Hypancistrus L333

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... G%26um%3D1


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If I'm correct they go for over $200.00 for a 1 inch fry.

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Its a Hypancistrus.

Beyond that its not documented.
I seen this video right after it came out.

Its not a 46, 173 or 98 (all zebra variations).
face and eye is all wrong.

There has been other forms of 173 coming in that are zebra variants, but this is not one of those either.

Pleco types are kind of like frontosa in this manner.
People think that within a certain type ALL members are identical.
People don't seem to realize that within a collection point, a dealer can find brother and sister, and THEN claim they are different fish, and give them different names.
fish are not always clones of each other.

people have come up with a brilliant strategy to increase sales.

so, within a exact collection point you can separate frontosa by purple and blue.
then say you have 2 different fish.
even though they are brothers.

same thing with plecos and discus.
and this has been well documented.

you can find brothers that have thick lines, and brothers that have thin lines, in the same spot, and boom, call them different fish.

you can find discus with no stripes, and discus with stripes, and boom, they will call them different fish, and they are breeding under the same mangrove roots.

so, anyway, not a zebra type (46,173,98).
not the second version of 173 going around either.
has way too much black,not enough white to be either type of 173.

My guess is its some kind of 236 or 250.
could also be a hybrid of either of these types with Zebra.

could also simply be a extreme variant with different markings.

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I still think its remarkably similar to L333!

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not like any 333 i have had, i i have had 2 versions of 333.

the color is not correct.
there is the yellow version and the white version of 333.
the white version of 333 is not even this white.
this fish has the white of a zebra as the base color.

its also IMO a bit too elongate to be a 333.
333 are a bit stubbier than this fish.
the length to height ratio is one of the identifier's for a 333 vs. say a 66.

I don't think its a unique undiscovered species.
its simply a morph or variation of a currently known Hypancistrus or a hybrid of 2 or more hypancistrus.

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