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 Post subject: plecos with frontosa
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in my 150 I currently have 12 kapampa and they are about 2" in size. Now I wanted to put a few plecos in is this a good idea? I do like the front tank only but not really sure if I should put another kind of fish in are there any disadvantages to putting something else in. I was thinking of plecos and maybe a few Altolamprologus Compressiceps. what do you think...

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Couple reasons to NOT put other fish in with frontosa.

Breeding, yours are only 2 inches, so you got about 3 years before that is a concern.

Feeding.
Frontosa are not super fast, so other fish can outswim them to the food.
Not really the case with plecos, or calvus/comps for that matter.

Aggression.
many fish, even if smaller will pick on frontosa, or nip at fins.
Again, not really a problem with plecos, or calvus/comps.

you won't have any problem with the Altolamps unless they are adults, picking on frontosa fry, or very tiny, as frontosa will outgrow them, and could swallow an Altolamp if the Alto is too small.

So at this time, as long as you get a Alto as big or bigger then your juvie frontosa, no problem.

Plecos.
Only real concern is diet and size.
Some plecos are dwarf so soon the frontosa will be big, and may swallow and choke on the pleco.

so you want a pleco that will get at least 8 inches.

Diet wise, some plecos are strict wood eaters, but if you feed animal products, it could harm them, as they will still try and eat it.
For this reason, Royal's are not the best choice, unless you want your frontosa to eat plant foods instead.
Many plecos are omnivores, and some are carnivores.
I made a list, which was mostly based on size.

A good choice is.
L24, L25 flame/scarlet pleco.
they get about 12 inches, have red in the fins, and are carnivores, so they can eat what you feed your frontosa.

L14 goldy/sunshine may be the most beautiful pleco out there.
carnivore, about 12 inches.

Parancistrus are about 8 inches, and chubby, hence the name chubby or rubber pleco.

Sailfin pleco would work, pretty common.
galaxy/vampire pleco, omnivore, 10 inches.

those are your best bets, none hard to find.

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Tr how big do the Blue Phantom plecos get?

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I hav Bristlenose Plecs in with my frontosa... they dont bother them at all!

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I'm most likely going to but in Blue Phantoms or Goldys :)

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I've had a bristlenosed pleco in with some adult Fronts for years & they didn't really bother him that I could tell, so I wouldn't think that at the size of your fish, it would be a big deal.
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Anthony";p="20919 wrote:
Tr how big do the Blue Phantom plecos get?


7-8 inches.

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Anthony";p="20941 wrote:
I'm most likely going to but in Blue Phantoms or Goldys :)


goldy's IMO would be the best choice.

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Ya thats what I might go with, thanks

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Thank you everyone for your input,
I do like the L14's and would love another type of fish in the tank, but I'm I making a mistake doing so because the fish seem very happy ( still a little shy when I go to the tank) and are eating well and I'd hate to disrupt that. Now the L14's are carnivores is that going to create a problem? I basically have been feeding my frontosa NLS cichlid pellets and occasionally spirulina flakes and not really a meaty diet.


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What about Fronts native catfish -synodontis multipunctatus (cuckoo catfish)
Get one male or one female, but not both. They have big eyes, swim fast ,fronts can't catch them. I have a 5" male that lasted 9.5 years with Burundis that got to 13" and now a Zaire colony. He outlasted my Golden Nugget and King Tiger plecos who were in the wrong place at the wrong time with a big male Burundi -in his cave after surviving 7 years with him!

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Gusto";p="21010 wrote:
Thank you everyone for your input,
I do like the L14's and would love another type of fish in the tank, but I'm I making a mistake doing so because the fish seem very happy ( still a little shy when I go to the tank) and are eating well and I'd hate to disrupt that. Now the L14's are carnivores is that going to create a problem? I basically have been feeding my frontosa NLS cichlid pellets and occasionally spirulina flakes and not really a meaty diet.


they will eat whatever you feed your frontosa.
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L14s (goldies) can get plenty big enough not to be bothered by fronts. I've seen them well over 18 inches.

Usually, 'carnivorous' applied to a pleco actually means omnivorous ime, just not exclusively or primarily an algae eater. Any 'carnivorous' plecos I've had did just fine on a variety of quality pellets, including spirulina.

My question with goldies would be what is the maximum ph anyone's kept them at? I've never tried keeping them above the low to mid 7s.


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Xingu (which is also home to my Zebra) is 6.0 to 7.5

so, they should be OK slightly above 7.5, if you want to try to breed them, and they are one of the few large plecos to breed in captivity, keep them in the 6's.

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