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a 240 gallon to setup, how would you stock it? I'm gettin' back into the game and just made a deal on a 240 gallon acrylic setup. With a tank this size, I can go 1000 directions. I'm certain of one thing; it's gonna be Tanganyikan. But that's about where my certainty ends.

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i'd pick up a big breeding group of my favorite zaire gibberosa and some calvus or comps. probably a ratio of 3m/12+f on the gibbs. but that's just me. sounds like an awesome tank. how long is it? 8 footer i'm guessing?

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8'x2'x2' ... I am picking it up Thursday morning!

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Awesome. Congrats! If I had another large tank, I would do either another Mpimbwe colony or a Zaire colony.

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I would love to have an eight foot tank. If I did I would fill it with Kaps and nothing else. Just a large colony of frontosa. Now that would be cool!! :bananna :bananna :bananna


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i'd pick up a big breeding group of my favorite zaire gibberosa and some calvus or comps. probably a ratio of 3m/12+f on the gibbs. but that's just me. sounds like an awesome tank. how long is it? 8 footer i'm guessing?


X1. Good advice.

Do a sand bottom. What filtration are you planning?

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X1. Good advice.

Do a sand bottom. What filtration are you planning?


Here's what I was thinking on substrate:
- 80lbs Crushed Coral
- 20lbs Tahitian Moon Reef & Marine Substrate
- 100lbs White Sand Eco-Complete African Cichlid Substrates
- 40lbs Sand Eco-Complete African Cichlid Substrates

The filtration that comes with the setup is a custom sump/pump ... I'll examine and tweak accordingly.


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Airshikaritagi wrote:
Ron R. wrote:

X1. Good advice.

Do a sand bottom. What filtration are you planning?


Here's what I was thinking on substrate:
- 80lbs Crushed Coral
- 20lbs Tahitian Moon Reef & Marine Substrate
- 100lbs White Sand Eco-Complete African Cichlid Substrates
- 40lbs Sand Eco-Complete African Cichlid Substrates

The filtration that comes with the setup is a custom sump/pump ... I'll examine and tweak accordingly.


Sounds like you have a plan! Good deal.

What I like about the finer (but not too sugary) sand is that it is dense and does not allow all the gunk (fish poop, uneaten food) to penetrate below the surface. Some of this stuff gets down there because fronts are diggers.

I've used crushed coral in the past and had it in the smallest size, but I had to vacuum it all the time. I use CaribSea Aragonite Select. It's one size up from the sugary aragamax most saltwater reefers use. I have 2 6080 Tunze Streams located at either end of my 6 foot 180g tank. I have them on an auto-timer and they kick on 4x daily for 15 minute cycles. The tornado effect it causes gently sweeps my sand and moves all the gunk to either of my 2 2217 ehiems I have at both ends of my tank. I haven't vacuumed my sand in 7 years or so.

Something to consider.

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Sounds like you have a plan! Good deal.

What I like about the finer (but not too sugary) sand is that it is dense and does not allow all the gunk (fish poop, uneaten food) to penetrate below the surface. Some of this stuff gets down there because fronts are diggers.

I've used crushed coral in the past and had it in the smallest size, but I had to vacuum it all the time. I use CaribSea Aragonite Select. It's one size up from the sugary aragamax most saltwater reefers use. I have 2 6080 Tunze Streams located at either end of my 6 foot 180g tank. I have them on an auto-timer and they kick on 4x daily for 15 minute cycles. The tornado effect it causes gently sweeps my sand and moves all the gunk to either of my 2 2217 ehiems I have at both ends of my tank. I haven't vacuumed my sand in 7 years or so.

Something to consider.


Thanks for the advice on the Streams! I use to do a similar thing with a 58g reef. I hadn't considered it here.


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Thanks for the advice on the Streams! I use to do a similar thing with a 58g reef. I hadn't considered it here.


I keep my wc Mobas using non-traditional methods. I keep my tank well lit. Since fronts live in the depths of Lake T, many front keepers don't turn on their lights much. I use an auto-timer for my Marineland Double Bright LEDs and another auto-timer for my moonlights. I have 2 large ball bubblers that aid in water circulation. Many believe air bubbles cause float. Float is related to stress. I have a female that likes to eat air bubbles coming off my air balls, but she also likes to swim to the top and gulp air at the surface. I use Texas Holey Rock and make caves for my Mobas with easy entry and exit. Yes, my rock is sharp and my fish get scrapes and scratches, but nothing serious. My Mobas like to spawn in the caves and seek cover as needed. I use a commercial grade single stage controller to operate 2 500w titanium heaters that I have laying on the sand bottom. Most saltwater reefers use single and double stage controllers. I'm getting ready to install an Apex Aquacontroller that will control and monitor everything I have (lights, heaters with redundancy, Tunzes, pH). It will shut off my heaters if my Johnson controller fails and will send me a text.

The Tunzes have been a blessing because they do an excellent job keeping my sand clean. The extra current doesn't discourage spawning or cause my alpha's milt not to make contact with the unfertilized eggs.

Just some additional things to consider as you're setting up your new tank. Congrats again!!!!!!

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Ron R. wrote:
Airshikaritagi wrote:
Thanks for the advice on the Streams! I use to do a similar thing with a 58g reef. I hadn't considered it here.


I keep my wc Mobas using non-traditional methods. I keep my tank well lit. Since fronts live in the depths of Lake T, many front keepers don't turn on their lights much. I use an auto-timer for my Marineland Double Bright LEDs and another auto-timer for my moonlights. I have 2 large ball bubblers that aid in water circulation. Many believe air bubbles cause float. Float is related to stress. I have a female that likes to eat air bubbles coming off my air balls, but she also likes to swim to the top and gulp air at the surface. I use Texas Holey Rock and make caves for my Mobas with easy entry and exit. Yes, my rock is sharp and my fish get scrapes and scratches, but nothing serious. My Mobas like to spawn in the caves and seek cover as needed. I use a commercial grade single stage controller to operate 2 500w titanium heaters that I have laying on the sand bottom. Most saltwater reefers use single and double stage controllers. I'm getting ready to install an Apex Aquacontroller that will control and monitor everything I have (lights, heaters with redundancy, Tunzes, pH). It will shut off my heaters if my Johnson controller fails and will send me a text.

The Tunzes have been a blessing because they do an excellent job keeping my sand clean. The extra current doesn't discourage spawning or cause my alpha's milt not to make contact with the unfertilized eggs.

No question Ron does several things out of the frontosa norm......but if it works, knock yourself out!! :lol: :lol:

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Ok...picked up the tank this morning.

Here's a pic as it sits empty & in need of some re-plumbing & a solid cleaning!

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OK I'm assuming its for display and enjoyment rather than breeding, so I'd get a group of F1 fronts about 3" (in my experience, Kigomas are less aggressive and predatory, so maybe them), plus about a dozen jumbo cyps, a few B. tricoti and for the rocks a pair of N. buescheri for one corner and some leleupi for the other corner. If it doesn't work out change it!

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Yes...you assumed correct; this will be a community enjoyment tank.

Thanks for the ideas...


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That is nice. It looks like a monster. I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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