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 Post subject: Breeding gold head comps
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The time has come to try and breed my goldies. Any tips, tricks, ideas and the such.
Tanks size, filtration, tank set up, feeding, water conditions any info will be much appreciated
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Advise good luck these are tricky fry to raise. My advise is to PM Razzo and ask him for some pointers as he is one of the best with these fish!


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Thanks for that I will PM him. Yeh I have heard the fry can be very horrible to raise, but I am not one to walk away from a challenge. first goal is get some fry second goal is to raise them


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Clean water lots of caves, I siphon off the fry as soon as I see them . Baby brine shrimp, and my favorite, freeze dried cyclops or cyclopeeze to feed them. Keep the fry tub as clean as possible. Good luck, they are tricky and unforgiving but if you get past week three they do just fine.

Razzo is the master, I have modified his advice just a bit with good results. Expect to lose a lot of your first group as you get your act together. Then it gets better. Hope you d well.

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Thank you, I am unsure if I can get cyclops in New Zealand, but I will get on to a brine shrimp hatchery in the next few days.
I expect to loose the first few batches, but practise makes perfect.


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Keep at it. See if you can find the cyclopeeze brand. I get mine from Ken's fish, baby brines should work well but you really need two hatcheries....or at least I did...or they grow too big too fast. I kept the hatcheries on a two day stagger so always had the smallest ones.

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I was looking at the stuff from kens, I asked the local forum members if they have had it here or imported it before so hopfuly someone knows


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We have been exchanging PMs.

Regarding the brine hatchery:
1) cut the bottom off two 2L bottles and rig so they can stand upright with the neck facing down.
2) Get a good quality ocean salt.
You will also need a light source to hang over both 2L bottles. I shop light about 10" about the bottles should work with a 65w bulb.
3) Bottle #1 - fill with 1 tsb of salt and 1 tsp or a 1/2 tsp of brine eggs and airate with an air stone.
4) at about 17 hours, turn off the airstone off for about 10 to 15 minutes and let the egg shells rise to the top and the BBS will gravitate to the bottom.
5) with a small tube, sphon out from the bottom of the 2L bottle the BBS into a BBS net.
6) rinse BBS in net over 5 gallon bucket with tap water that is about 75 to 80 degrees F.
7) Now start up your 2nd 2L with clean tank water and put BBS in that (no salt).
8) I use a turkey baster to suck them out and squirt into the altolamp fry tank.
9) Keep an airstone in that 2nd 2L bottle.
BBS brine shrimp are best within the first 7 hours of hatching as they still have their egg sac and are very high in protein.
10) Clean out 1st 2L bottle in that same 5 gallon bucket.
11) Restart 1st 2L bottle with fresh tank water, salt and eggs.
12) Repeat the next day. You'll need to dump the 2nd 2L once a fresh batch of BBS is ready.

Don't forget to dump that 5 gallon bucket into the toilet - it will stink pretty bad.

I'll check in on this thread if you have any more questions beyond this reply and our PMs.

Best wishes. Sounds like you have a the right attitude. You will do well.

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...Expect to lose a lot of your first group as you get your act together....


Very true. Get your routine down and do not miss. They are very unforgiving the first month.

Keep at it and you will have good results :wink:

It is VERY possible to get high survival rates - don't get discouraged. They are a tough species to get nailed down. It is possible :wink:

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Thanks Russ and everybody else who has contributed to this. once I clear out my Mbuna fry tank my goldies will be going in and hopefuly in time I will get some sucsess


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