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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:54 pm 
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i picked up a couple canister filters for next to nothing on craigslist recently. i've never used canisters before, but i couldn't pass these up. normally i'm an AC guy. anyway, is there a trick to getting these things to seal so they don't leak? i pressed them down gently trying not to break anything before i clipped them in place and upon starting them they both leak around the gasket. am i doing something wrong or do the gaskets on both of them need to be replaced? if so no big deal. they are cheap. i just figured it was something i was doing wrong since they both leak a little. thanks in advance.

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Try to grease the gaskets with...well I use olive oil some use petro jelly. What brand are they? They should not leak at all, small leaks can become a torrent quickly. Good luck. Any word on the new fish? :D

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Did you check to make sure the gasket has not twisted or rolled as this will not allow a good seal. If you are not sure you can pull the gasket out make sure it is not broken and then put it back in keeping it straight.


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ok. i'll check the gaskets. they are a Cascade 700 and a Fluval 404. fish from Russ just arrived this morning bassetman. i'll try to get some pics tonight.

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for the fluval 404 they are claimed to be leak prone.
i never considered mine leak prone, just the gasket gets old, and you buy a new one.
i think the O ring is about 7.99.
I think i get about 4 years out of my gasket.
so if yours is a couple years old, id get a new gasket.

other thing you could do is set it inside a 5 gallon bucket, or tupperware if the leak isn't gushing.

I also think that people who clean the canister each week are wearing out that O ring.
I clean my canisters about every other month, all my tanks also run Dual Aquaclears, which i clean out about every week.

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ya, the o ring is probably shot. who knows how long it was sitting in the guy's garage. i'll see if i can pick one up at my LFS this weekend.

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For too many years I've only used canister filters and mainly Eheim. I'm using an Eheim that is over 20 years old and has the original "o" ring in it. Sometimes people can be a little rough with their handling of them and this may cause damage to them and cause leakage.
I find canister filters by far superior to internals,hang ons undergravel etc., as they are so easy to look after and can be placed underneath out of sight. Eheim are by far the best of all of the filters in my opinion, nothing comes anywhere near them for quality and ease of use.


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All my ehiems have been bullet proof and easy to maintain. I have 3 2217s and a 2215 that is ten years old. The only down side is the impeller shaft is easy to break unless you have a spare.

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I have both Eheim and Fluval canisters, and Marineland too!

As far as Eheim, they do seem more leak proof.
They are also quiet.

The fluval is louder, but moves alot more water.
The minor leak drops i have had have been OK, and I replaced the O ring before they turned into gushers.

Though i do believe Eheims to be superior to Fluval, i don't think if im buying new id spend the extra money on them.

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Ehiems are also quite affordable. A 2217 At kens is about 135 full of media.

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That is a good deal.
And actually fluval prices have jumped.
used to be i could get 400 series fluvals for $99, now they are $150 at Amazon.
While i remember the Eheims used to be over $200.
Seems Eheims have dropped in price, while Fluval has jumped.

the eheim 2217 can also be found at bigals for $129 and free shipping.
http://www.bigalspets.com/classic-canis ... +Shopping&

so the Eheim is quieter, for a bigger tank (160g vs. 100g), more bulletproof and is actually cheaper!
For the Eheim 2217 vs. Fluval 406 I change my endorsement to Eheim!!!!

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for $159 the rena XP4 is good for 265 gallons.

http://www.bigalspets.com/fish/filstar- ... r-xp4.html

i have never had one though.

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Just found a Eheim 2217 on craigslist for $40. gotta clean it out. it's been sitting but i'm pretty happy about the score. it's actually the one i originally wanted to try. :D

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My Eheim I'm using is a 2060 which is the "bucket" filter. It's over 20 years old and has the same pump as it was supplied with. I bought a spare impellor at the time and it's still in the box. Spare parts are readily available even at it's great age. A friend of mine borrowed the filter and left it in his garage over the winter with water in it. The water had frozen and 6 of the clamps had broken as the ice had expanded but one phone call and replacements were there. It cost 285 English pounds all those years ago but I've had my monies worth from it. I don't think the Fluvas etc will have the longevity of Eheim or the absolute quality of them.


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