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 Post subject: Tanganyika buffer by seachem ?
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Anyone use this and dose anyone keep there ph that high. I have allways kept my ph around 8. My tap water is about 7.5 so its not to hard to keep the tank stable at 8. Do i need to keep the ph at 9-9.4 for fronts.


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 Post subject: Re: Tanganyika buffer by seachem ?
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I have used it at 1 teaspoon per 25 gallons when I had low ph water. It works fine and is easy and consistent if used with some care. It is a little costly if you have several tanks but the ease of use makes up for it. I still use sachems lake salts to add extra hardness but I do not need the buffer any more in the new house.

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The lake salt is very costly. I use instantocean. do you keep your ph over 9?


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Reefbuilder works great for hardness also. I have used marinebuffer for ph. But that only maintains at 8.0-8.4


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I like 8.0-8.5. the Salt costs 14.00 per kilo I use 6 teaspoons per change a kilo goes 3 months, not too expensive......the color on the fish and the amount of fry I get seems to bear out its usefulness.

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I have used seachem products 20 years or so with saltwater and they are good and work well. But cost is a lot higher on the freshwater stuff. I know you use alot less. I am use to using two 15 lb. 6.8kg, per change. So when they told me $50 for a small bucket maybe 1.5lb i was shocked. I will check online prices and try it. Thankyou for the input.


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As far as I know the bucket is 3 kilos and sells for about 45 bucks, no price break until you get the 50 pound sack according to my source so I just get the kilo 3 times a year when I order food for the fronts.. I get all my food and supplies at Ken's fish.
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i've always read that a ph between 7.8-8.6 is ideal. i think anything over 9 would be too much.

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Tanganyika buffer is fformulated to maintain a ph of 9.0-9.4 . I have never kept my ph that high. I shoot for 8.0 and my fish seem fine. but i am no expert with cichlids. So i thought i would ask if any one did keep ther tanganyika fish that high.


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I think over 9 is to high for frontosa. I keep mine at 8-8.3 never even close to 9. At a water change I add a teaspoon of rock salt (like what you would use in a soft water system) per 10 gallon of water added to my tank. With my city water and the salt I stay at like I said 8-8.3 ph. Sometimes I wonder if you are paying for a name. I am sure the product is good or they wouldn't be selling it. I think you need to find what works every time you do a water change and stick with it. IMHO. :D


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If you use the maximum dose you could get it that high, but why? Just use what you need togetyour ph to the desired level....as long as you are close to what you want stable is better than exact numbers. There are several DIY buffers recipes out there that are cheaper to use but they generally require a larger volume of buffer per gallon and you must store several bags buckets or tins of material rather than 1 bottle. I test on a 5 gallon sample and then multiply to the 70 gallons I change in my maintenance. Use what you like and are comfy with....just remember that big swings of ph will make your fish very unhappy.

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I allway found that true in salt water. stable is better then high.


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