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 Post subject: Substrates and backgrounds
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I started out with white sand that i mixed a small amount of fine black gravel in, my fronts looked ok. I had to have that color sand since my new tank purchase was a package deal and that was what came with it. I mixed the fine black gravel into the sand to help disguise debris between vacuming and have to say that works fantastic. I hardly ever could see poo or other debris in pics, even closeups. I have since bought a second large tank and for this one i got jet black sand and I hand painted the background black. I have to say that my fronts appear much calmer and their colors are so much more intense. Black sand and black background are the way to go if you like the darker vivid colored fronts. If you like the white/ice blue look on your fronts then go with the lighter substrates. Here are a couple pics of the two looks :

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Being that frontosa are a deep water fish and not a shallow fish like mbuna and tropheus keeping the tank somewhat dark IMO is most appreciated by them, even more as they become adults.

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I agree. I also went with a low watt white light and marine glo bulb for the light strips. It seems to work for them. They really liked it when i had all marine glo but it was just too dark for my taste. So i compromised with them, one of each LOL.

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We got pictures. Now can we have a whole tank picture. I really like your tank, very nice.

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very nice i like the color the plants add

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Big Jim";p="264 wrote:
We got pictures. Now can we have a whole tank picture. I really like your tank, very nice.


Wow, thank you. The plants are plants made for aquatic turtles, i like that they are longer and work good for a tall tank. I have changed the middle plant to come out and around the back of the giant rock cave in the middle. It looks better that way but i have not taken a pic this week to show you. I have a couple whole tank shots. Here are two :

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Very nice.

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great looking set up.

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Awesome Frontosas! I read no another post that you got them from Petco. I could not believe it I had to have mine shipped to me. Our LFS around here don't even know what a Frontosa is LOL. Also your tanks looks GREAT!


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Thanks everybody. I was lucky to have gotten them there. THey would get two in at a time each week and i would buy them both. They got them for about 4 to 6 weeks, they dont carry them anymore but i think you can order online. I would not order online from petco though, might as well order from a breeder then. I just liked that they looked nice and clean and i got to see them in person first before purchase. Im oldfashioned and really dont like to order online or pay for a product that i have not seen inperson. So it worked out for me . I will admit most fronts i have seen that came from petco or other large chains are not as good looking as mine were. they often have mooning etc... I lucked out that they had a decent supply at that time.

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do frontosa mind any color substrate? or would a light color be fine? and do you use corse or smooth substrate?


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do frontosa mind any color substrate? or would a light color be fine? and do you use corse or smooth substrate?


They are a deep water fish that are not exposed to bright lights in the lake.
They are not a surface fish such as mbuna or tropheus that live in bright areas.

The problem with light substrate such as white is that it reflects light back at them, which is not what happens in their native habitat.
Its like having a mirror, its why many breeders who use bare tanks paint the bottom black, so light is not reflected back at them.

so it depends how you look at it.
is making your fish's home more comfortable to them important, or making it how you want it to be more important.


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i want to make them feel as cofortable as i can butat the same time show off there color


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Then go with black sand. I perfer sand to gravel . I had gravel for many years and thought it was great. I recently got sand for the first time and will never buy gravel again. The fish really love it too. Its easier on their mouths. The black sand makes the blue darker and the black stripes crisper IMO on fronts and on other fish such as haps an mbuna it also accents the oranges, yellows, reds, and greens so well. It gives those brightly colored fish a real neon look. I just love the stuff, i find white sand can give the fish a washed out look. Fish will naturally tend to darken or lighten to blend in to their environment and the darker colored sand /decor IMO tend to enhance the fish's natural colors. Its also easy to learn to vacume the sand, just barely skim the surface of the sand with the siphon rather than jam the tube into the substrate. do it once or twice and its so much easier than gravel to clean.

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Wonderful pics, cichlidgirl. I was at my lfs today, and they had frontoses $8.99. it was so tempting, but im going on vacation tomorrow and will be gone 9 days. I have my nitrates down to 0.25 and will slightly overfill the tanks tomorrow before I leave. My daughter is going to feed them one time and add 78 to 79 degree water if water level shows. I wanted them fed more, but she works about 50 mile from here and 12 hours most days. so I was nice:(. I didnt realize I was going to get in a tiz about the tanks till today.. tx for invite to this lovely site.


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